Sober Friends
The Sober Friends Podcast: Two Guys Talking Recovery
Matt and Steve have been sober for over a decade each. They still don't have it all figured out.
This is a podcast about recovery - AA recovery specifically - but it's not your sponsor's recovery podcast. It's two friends talking through the stuff that actually matters:
What do you DO when you're not drinking? How do you handle control issues 15 years in? Why does calling someone in recovery feel so goddamn hard? What happens when you remove alcohol but don't replace it with anything? And seriously, do you miss drinking or do you just miss the relief?
Every week Matt and Steve work through these questions together - sometimes they have answers, sometimes they're figuring it out in real time, and sometimes they just need to talk it out like you do with a friend who gets it.
If you're in recovery, thinking about recovery, or just trying to figure out how to live without alcohol as your coping mechanism - welcome. Grab some coffee. Let's talk.
Topics: Alcoholics Anonymous, 12-step recovery, sobriety, addiction, relapse, service work, early recovery, staying sober, and everything in between.
Matt and Steve work AA programs but speak only for themselves. This show isn't affiliated with Alcoholics Anonymous.
New episodes weekly at soberfriendspod.com
Sober Friends
E265: Carrying the Message (Without Being Preachy)
Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.
"Carrying the message" doesn't mean becoming Mr. AA or giving speeches at speaker meetings. It's not about recruiting, arguing on Facebook, or diagnosing strangers.
In this episode, Matt and Steve talk honestly about what carrying the message actually looks like — and why it has nothing to do with preaching.
Steve shares the story of his first AA meeting: lost, confused, and terrified. Then someone reached out with a simple handshake and said, "Hey, I'm Mike. How you doing tonight?" That moment changed everything. Not because Mike gave him a Big Book speech, but because he showed up and made him feel human.
Matt breaks down his approach: "The number one thing I can do to share the message is to live a good sober life and not be a prick." He talks about being the kind of person who makes others curious about recovery — not through preaching, but through the quality of his life.
We discuss:
- Why "attraction not promotion" actually works in practice
- What it means to be "the only Big Book someone might read"
- Steve's realization: "I don't want to be the guy people think would be better off drinking"
- How carrying the message looks different at 3 months vs. 15 years sober
- The story of the 11-month chip and the 38-year chip at the same meeting
- Why newcomers carry the message too (even when they're struggling)
- Matt's exhaustion from travel and why taking care of yourself IS carrying the message
- The real reason Steve keeps his Monday night meeting going
The conversation gets real about Steve's neighbor asking him to walk the dogs, his grandson's birthday party, and why being wanted at family events is the whole point of doing this work.
Bottom line: You don't have to be perfect to carry the message. You just have to live well enough that when people hear you're in recovery, they're curious instead of skeptical.
If you've ever felt uncomfortable about "carrying the message" or thought it wasn't your place because you're too new, too flawed, or too tired — this episode is for you.
📫 Get more honest conversations about sobriety delivered to your inbox! Subscribe to The Sober Friends Dispatch, our weekly newsletter where we go beyond the podcast to share real strategies for alcohol-free living. Join our community by clicking here.
Podcasts we love
Check out these other fine podcasts recommended by us, not an algorithm.
Sober Powered: The Neuroscience of Being Sober
Gillian Tietz, MS, CPRC
Recovered Podcast
Mark S.
Sun & Moon Sober Living Podcast
Mary Tilson
Behind The Smile with Ash Butterss
Ashleigh Butterss
The Sober and Happy Podcast
Tim Phillips
Adult Child
Andrea Ashley
The Hello Someday Podcast For Sober Curious Women
Casey McGuire Davidson